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NBJ Seminar with Card Counter Ed Goldstein & E. Clifton Davis in Las Vegas Oct 1993
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Want to welcome you all. Can you all hear me in the back? No? This is I know. I know. Can you all hear me in the back now? I'm pretty loud. Can you hear me? Okay. The pit bosses can hear me. Okay. You all came. I want to welcome you and thank you for coming. Tonight you're going to learn something for the first time, or some of you will learn something for the first time. There's a lot of NBJ players here tonight. NBJ, which stands for New Blackjack. New, meaning today's game. What you're going to hear tonight is something that you probably never heard before. You're going to hear the truth. The truth about blackjack. This is something you've never heard of before. You've never heard of it because the casinos don't want to let you know why they're beating you so badly. Have any of you played so far since you've been up here? Few of you? You all winning a lot of money? Well, Ellis and I played last night. Matter of fact, we played almost all day yesterday. We didn't lose any tables yesterday, did we? Not one table. We beat them all. We did manage to lose one table today. That was it. But we won every other table we played at. The casinos are telling you to play a certain way, telling you to play basic strategy. They're telling you the wrong way to play. Remember that when you go to your rooms tonight and you see the little magazines, remember who they're written by. The casinos. Remember when you buy a book on blackjack. Any book on blackjack, the book will tell you oh a variation of betting. But every book is exactly the same. It teaches you basic strategy. It's exactly what the casinos teach you in the casino for free. Have you ever noticed that? They will sit you down at any table. They have these playing schedules, where learning schedules where you can play for free. And they will teach you how to play. Actually, they teach you how to lose. That's why you're losing. Now we're going to play a couple of games here, and you're going to find out why today's game is different than yesteryear's game. So what we're going to do is kind of test your knowledge a little bit here. I got some cards sitting here, and I'm going to hold them up so that all of you can see in the back. But basically, what we've got here is three players. We've got one, this is the dealer, with the dealer hold uh with the dealer up card. You can all see that, right? In the back? Okay. I'm sure that all of you are going to know what to do as I hold these cards up, right? Today we're going to play this game right here. We're going to play this just as if we played this in yesteryear's game. Yesteryear's game. That means like 20 years ago. Okay? So, notice that all the cards are down. That's just like yesteryear, right? Just like yesteryear. The cards are down. You can't see them. That was okay for yesteryear, because here's the first player, and what has he got? So what would you do? Stand. That's right. Why would we stand? Because the dealer's got a breaking hand. This guy's got a breaking hand or the dealer? Both. Because we're going to break. So you're going to stand. There's one other thing that was different from yesteryear is today. Not only are the cards down, but it's a single deck game. Single deck. That's all we ever played. Okay? What is this guy gonna do? He's sitting in the middle. Double down. That's an easy one, right? This guy's gonna make a lot of money here. He's gonna double down. We all know that one. You think I got these cards fixed a little? Do you think the casino fixes their cards a little? They don't, huh? But they don't come up like I'm holding them? Or do they? Isn't this what you see? Yeah, it's exactly what you see. What do we do? Stand. Exactly. Surrender, right? Surrender. Very good. Yep. We're gonna surrender on that hand. Alright, so the guy stands. We got two stands and a double down. In other words, we think the dealer's gonna break, don't we? Alright, the first guy is the double-down guy. So he's gonna take the very first card off the top of the deck, and he's gonna get a pretty good card. Now he's got it won, right? Maybe. Right. He's got 19, isn't that a pretty good hand? Pretty good hand, yeah. Except in today's casinos. Okay. Everybody else stood except for the double down. Now, what's different about today's game and yesteryear's game? What are we looking at now? I know that you can't always see this, but what we've got here now is all the cards are face up. They're face up now. You can see them. We didn't do that in the old days. But what happens? The casino is telling you to play exactly the same way. Don't they? You're still supposed to play basic strategy, right? In other words, the guy with 14 here, he would still stand, right? The guy with 15 down here, he would still stand, right? And the double down, that guy is still double down, right? Especially now because we know he's got a 19. Yeah, that's what they want you to do. But what happens in the casino today? What really happens today? Isn't this kind of like it is? The dealer's showing a five, right? He pulls up his card. We all know we're gonna beat this hand now, right? Are we pretty sure? Alright. Oh, I think that's right. Okay. So they pull the next card out. There's the card on the top. Usually I got a little podium here I can put these cards. Okay? That's what comes up. 16! He gets 16, doesn't he? Now we think he's gonna win. That we're gonna win. He's gonna lose. But of course the next card comes up, we already saw that card. And he gets 21. And he does it with four cards. Sometimes he does it with five cards. Sometimes he does it with six cards, doesn't he? Pretty common. Now I mentioned that I fixed these cards. And then I also said, aren't the dealers fixing the cards? Somebody said no. What you're gonna find out tonight is that the cards are fixed. They are actually legally cheating you. Now that I've given you all of that spiel, let me introduce myself. I'm Ed Goldstein. Some of you already know me as a player. I'm a professional player, and I've been playing for 25 years. I was a counter. I was a counter. I'm an ex-counter. I counted for a long time and I made a living doing that. And then for about five years, after getting thrown out of all the single deck games in Vegas, being in the Black Book, having my picture taken, having some harrowing experiences, I no longer could play the single deck. They wouldn't let me play. I could not count anymore. If you cannot count, if you cannot play, you cannot earn a living. So I tried the shoe, since they were coming out with the shoes now. You cannot beat the shoe. I could not beat the shoe counting. So through word of mouth, I happened to meet Mr. Davis. Which was great for me because I found a new way to play the game. As a matter of fact, today's game, I win more today than I have ever won as a counter. As I mentioned, Ellis and I went out yesterday together. He played first, I played third, we took over tables. We played several casinos, laughed, had a good time. I could never do that counting. And beat every table. Okay. What I'd like to do right now is introduce you, because tonight is a very special night. I'd like to introduce you to the gentleman that created all of this. And hopefully, some of you folks out there are going to join our club. We have a lot of members out in the back already who followed us around, some of them followed us around. And hopefully at the end of this, we'll all become very good friends as we take money off the tables. So those of you who said you were losing, we can turn that around. We can make you win. So right now I'd like you to please give a big hand to Mr. Ellis Davis as he comes up to the table right now.
SPEAKER_03This microphone is only hooked up to the tape recorder, and it's kind of a nuisance, but we'll try to get by with it. I'd like to start uh by correcting one thing on here. We're now at this is kind of an old slide, we're now at 2,500 NBJ players. There's 2,500 players in the NBJ Club. They are the best players in the world, bar none, all over the world. We won the tournament last year in Australia. We have players in in Europe, Australia, all over the place, Canada, everywhere. We have about 500 full-time professional players. Most of those guys, like Ed, are X-card counters. Uh the method that we use to play beats the pants off of card counting. Card counting is a thing of the past. Uh it's still relatively good in the single deck game, but if you're playing for any kind of money at all, and you win in the single deck game, they're just going to shuffle up on you. They're not going to let you play like they used to. And so it's kind of a worthwhile endeavor. I'm not saying anything against card counting. You're looking at the fastest card counter in the world, at least I've never met anybody else, they can count down a deck of cards in 13 seconds and tell you what card you took out. But it doesn't work. I it doesn't work in the multiple deck game. I'm the first one to know that. It doesn't work in the multiple deck game, and I think there's a lot of you out there that also realize that by now. Used to work. Used to work fine, you know, but not anymore. Uh, I'd like to start because I always forget we have a lot of MBJ players here, uh, and I'm wondering if if any of you people that have played MBJ for a while would would like to say something to the audience, just for instance, to tell them that that we are for real, we are who we say we are, and we have a tremendous amount of ta integrity in this business. Any any of Miami J players want to say a word? Sure, go ahead.
unknownMy name's John Roger.
SPEAKER_01I linked a seminar in San Diego, South Florida. Uh the last five or six years prior to going to that, my when I was still over to Vegas. I considered any money that I had, any money I had left on my way back home. I I I used left my money. But since uh getting involved I can make about four thousand a day. I come over uh 57. So it's uh uh three, four hours. Uh works. I did not. Wednesday I did it uh about three hours and I played uh about two hours I played. I came over here but I don't have the same for setting a table and I came on a table. Well kind of uh I play I play five dollar table, and uh my biggest bet uh was bet. Wednesday I never had a bet uh larger than $50. I went about 95 uh 90, 95 percent. I'm really good at bet, I went about 95% of my big bet.
SPEAKER_03You play first base mostly?
SPEAKER_01I do now.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Okay, we'll talk about that is a little in a little bit. I mean it just definitely and NBJ is for all levels of player, two dollar players, $100 players. It's it's for everybody. Uh you know, the cards don't know how much you're you're playing for. The cards don't know. The chips don't know how much they're worth. It's the same game whether you play in a two-dollar game or whether you play in a hundred dollar game. We have people that play once a year on vacation. We have people that are full-time pros and they play all the time. By the way, we recommend to our full-time pros that you only play about one week out of the month. You can make enough money playing one week out out of the month. We don't like you to get burned out in this game. Uh, you're gonna hear some stuff tonight. How many have been playing for more than three years? Just about a third or maybe a little more than a third. You guys that have been playing for more than three years, I'm gonna say some things that uh may sound a little strange to the other players. I'd like you to back me up on some of these things that I say. Uh we got any other NBJ players that want to say a word. Okay, shoot.
SPEAKER_00You know, my name is Larry Hale. And uh I lived up in front of them now but living in Canadian a whole lot.
SPEAKER_03Thanks. Are there any of the people here that uh were following us around yesterday? Are any of those people here? Uh anybody? I just wanted somebody, you know, Ed said that we wanna we played all these casinos in one, but I was wondering if you were there for some of those games, yeah. Where were you at? Caesars. How do we do? Do we look like we're having a good time? This we have a good time, you know. I mean it's a serious thing, you're betting a lot of money, it's a serious thing. We like to bring the fun back to the game. We do have a we have a good time when we when we play. I'm gonna tell you that for players like Ed and I, Vegas is duck soup. It's it's a candy store for us. There's nothing that we do in a game of blackjack that you can't learn to do. You don't have to be a mathematician, you don't have to be brilliant, you don't have to have 150 IQ, there's nothing that we do in the game that you can't learn to do. There's just certain things that you gotta notice in a game and you gotta react to them. And that's what we teach you. You know, I'm going to tell you that we are in this business to make money. We're going to offer you later tonight an opportunity to join the NBJ club. However, that's an option. Okay, I don't want you to even worry about that right now. I want you to just sit back and listen because you're going to learn more about this game tonight than you ever knew about it before in your life. And I don't care, even if you're a dealer or work for a casino, how many people do we have here that work for the casinos? I know that Fred does, and he's here. How many, sorry, I mean we're not going to say anything bad about you. We have we have there's more dealers that play NBJ now than play any other way. And we have a lot of dealers in our club and pit bosses and so forth. Usually we have some executives from Caesars or those guys here. They're usually here. How many people do we have that work for the casino are not going to raise their hand? How many reading? I can't even I can't trick them into it. All right, we know you're out there. We know you're out there. You always are. All right. Um, let's get started. Let's talk about some differences. Now, you guys that have played for a while. I'm gonna tell you a few things that you see in the game today that you didn't see a few years ago. I'm going to say that for you people that are experiencing the game for several years, that you see far fewer winners in the game today than you used to see just a few years ago. Anybody anybody gonna argue with that? Fewer winners today than you used to see a few years ago. I'm going to say that you see the dealer break a lot less often today than she did a few years ago. Mathematically, the dealer should break 28% of the time. I'm going to tell you, and you people that play, please vouch for this. In most games, the dealer doesn't break anywhere near 28% of the time today. I'm going to tell you that just a few years ago, four blackjacks in the same round of cards would have made newspapers. Paper headlines. I'm going to say today the four people getting blackjack in the same round will hardly raise an eyebrow in the game. The only thing you can be assured of is who's going to be one of them? The dealer. The dealer, absolutely. I'm going to tell you that the dealer gets how many tens are there in 13 cards? In the 13 cards. Four tens. How many 10 ups should the dealer get then out of 13 hands? Four. How many does she get? Tons. Way more than the four out of 13. There's reasons for that. There's reasons for the fact that the dealer doesn't break. I know we have some dealers here. Most dealers don't even know why this is. Most dealers are totally innocent. They just deal the game the way their company teaches them to deal the game. Now, most dealers, if they only got four first card tens, would be having a really rough day. If they actually broke 28% of the time, they'd probably go home crying because this is not what they're used to. They're not used to breaking that often. They're used to first card tens. They're used to beating you. They don't necessarily know how they are doing this. Okay? Before you leave tonight, you're gonna know, and they're gonna know if they're here, how this is all occurring. Let me start with another slide and get this one off the board, I think. We've had enough of that. I'm gonna skip the shell game and go right into it. Let's talk about why you see fewer winning players today than what you used to see just a few years ago. You know, just a few years ago, you'd walk into a casino, you'd see a certain percentage of winning players. There'd be a few winning players, you know, maybe not all that many, but you'd see winning players. Today you can walk into a casino. It's possible to walk into a casino today and not see anybody winning, particularly if you've had the this pleasure to play Atlantic City. You can walk into Atlantic City in the most casinos on any weekend and not spot a single winning player. How does this happen? Alright. It's hands-won ratio. I'm going to tell you, this is not my number, this is a number from the casino, that the players today win about 40% of the hands. They win about 40% of the hands they play on a good day. Atlantic City on a weekend, you're not going to do 40%. You're going to do about 35% if you're playing well. Well, if you're winning 40%, what's the dealer winning? How do you expect to win this game? 60% is 50% more than 40%. If the dealer's winning 60% and you're winning 40%, you can't win the game. Those are casino numbers, not my numbers. They're casino numbers. And I think for most of you people that play a lot will agree, those numbers are fairly accurate. Why? This didn't used to be true. Every card counter book there is tells you that the casino only has a 1% advantage against basic strategy player, and they got a 1% disadvantage against a card counter. How many card counters do we have? Don't be afraid. How many card counters do we have? What's your advantage in the casino today? In the multiple deck game. What do you think it is? At best. It's gone to hell. It's gone to hell. We're gonna show you why. Um I want you to pay attention to the fact that 60% is 20% more than 40%, because that 20% is gonna show up again. Let's take a typical I have to get these in there right. $5 game. I'm just gonna construct here a $5 game for a moment. And let's talk about the fact that every blackjack book there is says that basic strategy players play to a 1% disadvantage. They play within 1% of Casino Ones. And I'm gonna tell you that that is total BS. Alright, we're gonna take a $5 game, we're gonna play a hundred hands in a five-dollar game. We're gonna flat bet at five dollars. So at the end of the game, we're going to have bet $500. Well, if the odds, if you play perfect book basic strategy, the odds are supposed to be 1%. Let me tell you what should happen. Let me show you what should happen in a 1% game. How can they make a camera that's not flat? Could you just sort of give us $10 back? You try static electricity and it didn't work. Just put your finger on it. There. Okay. Alright. A hundred hands are gonna play. If you are playing to a 1% disadvantage, here's what will happen. Your hands loss will be 50.5. Your hands won will be 49.5. Your betting $5 a hand. Your total bet will be $500. Your bet's loss will total $250, $250. Your bet's one totaled $247.50. And at the end of about two hours, it takes about two hours in a $5 game to play $100 hands. You will lose $5. It's what every book tells you. You can go to any casino, anywhere. Bring five dollars with you and play for two hours. When you go to a casino play five dollar blackjack, how much money do you bring with you? Somebody give me a number. At least a hundred? How long would you last if you brought five bucks?
unknownOne hand.
SPEAKER_03One hand. One hand. That isn't what happened. Now, here's real world. This is what does happen. Same five dollar game, the same hundred hands. You're going to lose sixty of those hands. You're going to win 40 of them. You're going to bet the same total $500. Your bet's loss is going to be $300. Your bet's won is going to be $200. And I'm going to say that at the end of an of two hours of play, you're going to lose about $100 on the average. It's 20% ads against you. I'm going to tell you that today the odds against you in a game of blackjack are one hell of a lot closer to 20% than they are to 1%. 1% is ridiculous. If the odds are 1%, you'd be able to bring 20 bucks to a casino and play all day and all night. That doesn't happen. What happens when you bring 20 bucks to a $5 table? You know, you I think you're being a little hard on yourself.
unknownYou don't even get the cocktail you ordered.
SPEAKER_03You know. Any right? You won't outlast the waitress. You know? It just won't happen. This is a heck of a lot closer to the truth of basic strategy than this is. It used to work at one time. It used to work a little bit in the single deck game. It never worked as good as as it was supposed to work. If you go back to the guys that invented basic strategy, the computer, their computers, uh, the the guy from IBM, what was his name?
unknownJulian.
SPEAKER_03Julian Braun. Very good. Julian Braun figured they had a 6% advantage. But when guys like Ken Houston played it, they only played to a 1% advantage. In single deck blackjack, they never figured out what happened to this other mathematical 5% advantage. We know what happened to it. We'll show you what happened to it. Alright, but remember they had 20%. It's the same 20% that was on the other slide. Okay. There's a number that every casino in the United States is at maybe the Indian Reservation Casinos. And and by the way, the only casino that I was ever barred from was an Indian Reservation Casino. And now the Indians have asked me to be on the Indian Council as a player representative. Alright, 1980. Casino table take rate was 10%. You guys that are from casinos can vouch for this. By the way, one of the executives from Caesars was here in the last seminar that I did. And I'm going to tell you in a second what he said about this slide. 1983, the casino table take rate went up to 12%. What is a table take rate? It's whatever you buy in for that you don't leave with. That's a casino table take rate. Okay? Whatever you buy in for that you don't walk away from the table from. In other words, how much of the money, how much of your money, buy-in money they take? That's the casino table take rate. Went up to 12%. 1985 it went up to 14%. 1987, it went up to 16%, 1990, 18%. And today the casinos take an average of about 20% of your buy-in money. Now, the guy from Caesars just couldn't stand it. He gets up in the back of the room, he comes running up, he says, Mr. Davis, he says, I take issue with that. He says, I'm in charge of the casino table take rate at Caesars. And last month we did 32%. And I said, geez, thanks for proving my point so eloquently. But why is that? You know, there's more and more blackjack books out. Supposedly they're better and better, but players should be getting better and better. But in reality, they're obviously getting worse because the casino is winning more and more money. Why is that? Is it really because the players are getting dumber? It's because the casinos are getting better. They know a heck of a lot more about what they're doing today than they used to know. See, the casinos they faced a challenge a few years ago. When Edward O. Thorpe invented card counting, and guys like Kenny Houston developed teams and went out and played it, the casinos said, well, we can either go broke or we can find a way to beat these guys. And they hired mathematicians just like me to figure a way to beat them. Those mathematicians did a wonderful job. Casinos can beat basic strategy hands down today. Casinos will give out free basic strategy cards in a casino and let you use them at the table. Do you think the casino would do this? Now, don't be naive. Do you think the casino would do this if basic strategy could beat them? They do it because they know they can beat the basic strategy player. They know it. They're not afraid of basic strategy players. Guys are afraid of are guys like me, guys like Ed, they're afraid of MBJ players. We don't play basic strategy. Basic strategy is very close to the worst way you can play this game. The game only has 6% odds if you flipped a coin. In fact, if you played straight dealer strategy, just hit every hand of 16. You know what your your odds would be? You'd be playing against 2% odds. 2%. You have to be taught how to play this bad. You gotta be taught how to play that bad. It's almost impossible to play that bad. I mean, you gotta memorize charge to learn how to play that bad. Alright? That's what basic strategy is all about. It's a conspiracy between the book writers and the casinos, pure and simple. They figured out how to beat it. Now they want to make sure that everybody plays it. Okay. Why do you think casino stock is going through the roof? Why are they building new casinos all over the United States, up and down the Mississippi River, all over the Gulf Coast, all over the northwestern United States, a new casino in Connecticut, a new casino in New York, a state which would never legalize gambling, now has gambling. Why? Because it can't pass up this money. Because all the players go out and play basic strategy. They're sitting ducks. They're sitting ducks. And the casinos realize this. You're being taken advantage of. How do they do it? They do it right under your nose. You watch them do it every time you play. You just don't realize what they're doing. Card clumping. How many people know what card clumping is? Alright, for those of you that don't know, card clumping merely means that the cards are not going to come out of the shoe random. You're going to have areas of the shoe that are going to be high and tens. And you're going to have areas of the shoe that are going to be low and tens. Here's what the mathematicians at the casinos hired did. They said, look it, this problem's not so tough as you think. Basic strategy depends on two things to work. It has to have these two things. It has to have random cards. Random cards. And it has to have a dealer break ratio of 28%. One out of three and a half hands. When's the last time you saw the dealer break? One out of three and a half hands. Wouldn't that be nice? That's what it's supposed to be. That's what it would be if the cards are random. The cards are not random. Basic strategy doesn't work. All the mathematicians had to do is teach the casinos how to deal with cards, how to pick up the cards and so forth. And we'll show you just how they do it. So they won't be random. And basic strategy is not only defeated, it becomes just about the worst way you could play your cards. Alright, here's a here's a blackjack hand that I rigged up here. And I think that you'll playing It's fairly typical. Give him his ten bucks back. Alright. First base player. By the way, this is a first base player. This is a third base player. For some strange reason, there is no second base player. We just don't use that. Alright. This guy, first bass player, he gets a pair of tens. Now what's he gonna do? Who said split? There's one thing I want you to learn. If you don't go away from this with one piece of information with this, never, never split tens. There's only a couple of nevers in blackjack. There's only a couple of always. Just never split tens. Why? It's not because you might not get two tens with them. Whenever you split tens, you're using up the player favorable cards. You're giving the dealer her hand. You're making all the other players at the table lose because tens are player favorable. Only player favorable when they break the dealer. And they don't break the dealer if you waste them splitting tens. Never split tens. But he's not the interesting player in this game. This guy is. He starts out, he's got a pair of fours, he's got an eight. Alright. So he looks and he sees the dealer's got a ten up. He's gonna hit an eight no matter what. He hits and he gets a three and he just he has this little ping, doesn't he? He's got an 11 there momentarily. You know, this little bright light goes flashing through his brain. So he hits again. Well, what happens when you hit an 11? That's what happens with this guy. Draws a tight, he's got 16 against the 10. What's he gonna do? What's this book tell him to do? Hit, hit. So he says, well, Jesus, I don't want to waste 10 bucks, so I gotta hit. That's what my $10 book tells me to do. So he hits and he breaks naturally with a 22. Alright. This guy, 20. This guy 12, 15, he's got a hit of 15 against a 10. 23. This guy, 20. He's gonna stand. 12, 15, 24. And we'll give the third bass player a 20. And I think you'll agree that that's a fairly typical hand in blackjack. But when that guy broke, what's the first thing the dealer did with his cards? Picked them up and put them where? And the discard rack. Why? So what? So you lost. So what? Why would she pick up his cards?
unknownThey're clumping and clumping.
SPEAKER_03Clumping, exactly right. They're sorting the cards. They're doing it right under your nose. You see? Why is that? Well, because when you get two tens, you don't hit, so you can't break. When you get two high cards, you can't break, can you? Because you're not gonna hit. Alright. The only way you can break is to have some low cards in your hand. All I can tell you about break cards is that the last card is gonna be a card higher than five. How do I know that? And I know it for an absolute fact. How do I know that? Because you know it's it's the rules of the game, isn't it? You're not gonna hit 17, probably not. Although there was a couple times today I wished I had. But you know, that's the rules of the game. You can't break at a card lower than six. And I want you to remember that. I want you to remember it always because it's information that we can use. You know, Ed mentioned a little while ago, there's been a huge change in the format of the game. Just a few years ago, all the cards were dealt down. Now they're dealt face up. You can see the card. What does every blackjack book tell you to do about that thing? They tell you, hey, geez, totally ignore that information. It's not going to do you any good. Play it as if they were still dealing the cards face down. You know why they they tell you that? Because they wrote the books when they were dealing face down.
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SPEAKER_03That's the only reason that they tell you that. I'm a writer, I know these things. Now, now they deal the cards face off. That's information. Information that you can use. All right, that you can use to win the game. We will teach you how to use that information to win the game. To ignore that information is totally dumb. It's like going at a golf tournament in town. It's like going out and playing golf with a five iron. And say, well, you know, I don't care if I'm on the green, I'm eight foot from the hole, I'm gonna hit it with my five iron. It's not using information. There's a 40 mile an hour win. Well, I don't care if there's a 40 mile an hour wind, I'm gonna hit my ball straight at the hole. That's what they're telling you. They're telling you, put reinders on. Do not think. Play by road. That's what they're telling you. Don't use your brains at all. Alright? That's how they're teaching you how to play blackjack. I gotta tell you something right now. You gotta think to win this game. You gotta think your way through it. We'll teach you how to think your way through it. They're gonna pick those cards up, they're gonna put them in the discard rack. They're gonna pick those cards up, they're gonna put them right on top of those cards in the discard rack. Then they're gonna pick those cards up and they're gonna put them in the discard rack. What's left on the table? Tens. All those tens are gonna get picked up together and be put into the discard rack together. One of the casinos in this city and several in the islands have a double discard rack. Don't play a casino that's got a double discard rack. There's only one reason for it. So they can sort the cards even better. If this doesn't work good enough, they can sort them better. Okay? How are the cards gonna be arranged in the discard rack? That's exactly how the cards in the hand hand will be in the discard rack. Looks pretty random to me.